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Tuesday, November 22, 2005

Ok. I realize that there aren't very many progressive and/or Democrat Lindsey Graham fans out there. For the uninitiated, Lindsey Graham is the Republican senator from South Carolina. More notoriously of late, he was a member of the moderate "Gang of 14" that averted the Nuclear Option. My parents live in South Carolina and while they are definitively NOT Republicans and have NOT been fans of Graham's in the past, their opinion of him has softened in the past months as he has been taking a fair amount of wingnut heat for his moderate actions.

I saw him interviewed on Hardball tonight - I only caught a couple of minutes of it, and the subject was torture and the treatment of detainees. He gave the most cogent, thoughtful opinion on the subject. I have to paraphrase because the transcript is not available yet, so although I am block quoting, the words are only from memory:

Torture and its use doesn't say anything about them [the terrorists - it says something about us. We don't have to become them to defeat them.

He came out strongly and unequivocably against torture and didn't once invoke (although it's a reasonable argument) the argument that if WE torture, our soldiers will be tortured... He made his argument on purely moral grounds and on the basis of what torture says about US if we commit it. I give him much respect for that, despite the fact that I may not agree with him on other things.



posted by RenaRF at 8:53 PM 4 comments links to this post

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Blogger Jolly Roger said...

I have some respect for Graham, but I see his movement as a bit late.

It is a shame that these guys only grow spines when elections draw near.

9:51 PM  
Blogger RenaRF said...

Agreed. I'll say this, though. My parents say that he takes an enormous amount of heat for his views from the very vocal (and voting) religious right in South Caroline - remember how effective the wingnut message was against John McCain in SC in the 2000 Republican primaries? Apparently that particular spirit is alive and well... My parents say that his actions and viewpoints are hurting him there somewhat. The question I don't have an answer to is whether or not he is up for re-election in '06...

10:58 PM  
Blogger Larakatt said...

Don't be too sodft on Graham. He is a closeted republican "lifelong bachelor" who voted for the Marriage Amendment. He has his own disgusting agenda that does not include rights for all Americans.

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